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pressing or more profound question for

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humankind to answer than this one

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have you ever seen a ufo

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i have

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once

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on vacation when i was a teenager

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my family was staying in a beach house

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near hatteras on north carolina's outer

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banks i was sitting out on the deck one

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night looking out at the vast expanse of

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the ocean and the impossible field of

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stars above

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growing up under the dull orange glow of

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a suburban night sky i so rarely got to

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see the stars like that and so i spent

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most nights out on the deck in a

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weathered adirondack chair with my feet

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kicked up on the railing and my head

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tipped back just marveling at the sheer

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number of stars

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on a clear enough night you could see

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that the stars weren't just uniform

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white pin pricks of light but rather

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they sparkled like gems in every color

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of the rainbow

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it was on one of those nights that i saw

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it

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the clear bright light moving across the

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sky was moving way too fast

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my brain reshuffled trying to make sense

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of what i was seeing

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i knew there was an air force base

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nearby and that made sense

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until the light took a hard 90 degree

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left turn without slowing down followed

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immediately by another equally

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impossible turn to the right before

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accelerating off past the horizon

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streaking like a comet

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electrified by what i had seen i ran

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inside and told my family but as you

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might imagine they laughed at me and

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then accused me of smoking weed fair

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i didn't talk about it again

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i didn't see anything else on that trip

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or ever again in the years since

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i would sometimes think about what i'd

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seen with a detached shapeless curiosity

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but what do you do with an experience

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that you can't attach to anything solid

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that falls outside the boundaries of

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everything you know to be true

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i think most people who find themselves

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in that situation do exactly what i did

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i mostly forgot while the kelly of my

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youth held a worldview expansive enough

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to permit for a little bit of mystery

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as i got older something changed

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or rather i did

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a series of life-changing events

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including the sudden and devastating

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loss of my father when i was 20 caused

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me to forcibly amputate any notion of

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the spiritual paranormal or otherworldly

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life as i saw it was a harsh rigid

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unrelenting landscape painted only in

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shades of black and white

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everything could be known it had to be

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because if it could be known it could be

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planned for mitigated dealt with or even

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choked on

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but at least i'd see it coming and i

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wouldn't make the mistake of hoping it

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could be different

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there wasn't any room for ambiguity in

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the paradigm that i adopted

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i thought about what i'd seen in the sky

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that night less and less and then barely

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at all until eventually years would go

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by without that troublesome incongruent

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little thought bubbling to the surface

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but then in april of last year something

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crazy happened

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it might even be the craziest thing

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that's ever happened which is saying a

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lot considering it coincided with the

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outbreak of a generational pandemic

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on april 27 2020 the pentagon released a

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statement to the press confirming that

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three leaked videos of ufos that had

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been included in a 2017 expose in the

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new york times weren't just real

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but they admitted that they had no idea

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what these craft were and had no

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explanation for their seemingly

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impossible maneuvering

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we'll get into the whole backstory

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behind the leaked videos the new york

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times article and this stunning

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admission from the pentagon in future

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episodes the utterly bizarre and

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unlikely series of events that ties

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these things together is at the very

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heart of this story

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but

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first let's talk about these videos

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because dude

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so

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these videos that were leaked in 2017

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and then confirmed to be authentic by

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the pentagon in 2020 are absolutely

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mind-blowing

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and not necessarily because of the

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quality of the video or what they show

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in this respect they're about as grainy

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and difficult to decipher as any other

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sketchy ufo video that you can find on

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youtube

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what makes these three videos remarkable

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is that they were filmed by us navy

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fighter pilots with the uss nimitz off

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the west coast and with the uss theodore

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roosevelt off the east coast

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both of these ships are giant aircraft

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carriers which are part of huge battle

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cruiser fleets

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this means that there were tons of ships

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and planes on the scene with the very

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best instruments available these videos

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don't just have multiple eyewitnesses

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who have been willing to step forward to

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verify their authenticity including some

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of the actual voices that you hear on

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these tapes

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but they have verification of the same

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object being tracked by multiple sensors

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both in the air and on the sea and they

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each have full chain of custody

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documentation which means that

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theoretically they can't have been

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altered

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basically you don't have to believe

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these videos are real

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but if these videos aren't enough to

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convince you i doubt anything short of a

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personal encounter would

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and for the record if that's how you

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feel that's totally valid and i respect

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it

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cautiously and be skeptical of the

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evidence

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i only bring this up to say that this is

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the closest thing to a smoking gun that

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we're going to get short of flying

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saucers landing on the white house lawn

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it would be hard to dream up more

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bulletproof evidence

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so what do these videos show

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i'm so glad you asked because i'm dying

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to talk about it

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the first video is referred to as gimbal

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now i had to look that word up so if you

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do too

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a gimbal is a pivoted support that

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permits rotation of an object about an

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axis

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which makes a lot of sense once you see

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how this thing moves

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the gimbal video was captured by u.s

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navy fa-18 super hornet aircrafts

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utilizing a raytheon advanced targeting

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forward-looking infrared pod or atfler

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you do not have to know what any of that

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means i certainly don't

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you just need to know that we're talking

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about some of the most advanced sensors

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and powerful tracking systems available

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anywhere

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in this video navy pilots can be heard

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marveling at a top-shaped object that

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they first think might be a drone before

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it rotates a full 90 degrees while

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staying in place

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something that should be aerodynamically

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impossible

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leaving them baffled as to what they're

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seeing

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although only one of these objects can

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be seen in the video eerily one of the

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voices can be heard saying there's a

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whole fleet of them

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the second video from an incident

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reported by pilots above the uss nimitz

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is called fleur

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for the advanced axler system that was

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used to record it

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there's no audio to this video but in it

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you can see a large smooth oblong

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tic-tac-shaped object hovering in the

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sky unmoving

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it just hangs there for a couple of

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minutes and then suddenly shoots off to

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the left at a velocity that can only be

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called

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unprecedented

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the third video is called go fast

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i'll give you three guesses why this

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video was filmed by us navy pilots from

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the uss theodore roosevelt in 2015 and

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it shows a round or oblong craft flying

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in the air over the open ocean at an

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impossible speed

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the pilots are laughing and shouting

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clearly stunned at what they're seeing

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one of the voices you can hear is that

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of commander david fravor who told abc

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news in an interview about the event

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after 18 years of flying i've seen

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pretty much about everything that i can

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see in that realm

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and this was nothing close

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in the time since these incidents have

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been investigated more deeply with

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multiple eyewitnesses coming forward to

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share what they saw and the details that

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they've been filling in are even more

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incredible than what was shown in the

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videos for example

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during the 2004 nimitz incident it's

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reported that the sensors above the uss

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princeton another aircraft carrier in

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the area that also encountered the

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tic-tac-shaped craft

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captured this craft dropping from eighty

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thousand feet in the air down to the

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surface of the ocean in point seven

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that's hundreds of thousands of

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kilometers per hour

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for comparison our fastest planes can go

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about mach 3.2

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we'll get more into the startling

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incidents behind these videos as we move

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forward and explore what these things

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could possibly be and what it all might

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but for now what i need you to know is

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simply this

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the pentagon has confirmed that there

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are what appear to be intelligently

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controlled craft that fly in our

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airspace and interact regularly with

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some of the deadliest and most advanced

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arms of our military apparatus with

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complete impunity

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the government says they don't know what

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they are

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pretty sure that they don't belong to

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any of our adversaries specifically

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russia or china because the technology

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being displayed is just simply too

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advanced for that to really be plausible

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we aren't talking about just a quantum

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leap forward in technological ability

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we're talking about technology that

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implies an entirely different paradigm

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and understanding of the laws of science

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as we currently know them

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so what exactly do i mean by that what

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are we dealing with here

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so there's this guy lou elizondo who is

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the former director of the secretive

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government agency that studies ufos that

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was first revealed to exist in the 2017

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new york times article

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lou is the former director of that

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program because he resigned from his

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position in 2017 in protest citing

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excessive secrecy and internal

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opposition in his resignation letter to

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defense secretary james mattis asking

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why aren't we spending more time and

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effort on this issue

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yeah we're going to be talking a lot

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more about lou but anyway louis lozando

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has spent the last five years since his

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resignation furthering the study of ufos

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or unidentified aerial phenomena as he

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prefers to call them and he cites five

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observables of this uap technology

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the first is anti-gravity

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these craft are somehow able to overcome

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earth's gravity with no visible means of

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propulsion and no visible flight

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surfaces such as wings

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the second is sudden and instantaneous

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acceleration

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like in the first nimitz video where the

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tic tac took off to the left at 3 600

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miles per hour

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these craft can go from a standstill to

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seemingly impossible speeds

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just like that

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the third observable is hypersonic

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velocities without signatures

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this simply means that they can go

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extremely fast like the tic tac that

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dropped 80 thousand feet in less than a

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second

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or 30 times the speed of sound

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without a sonic boom

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that shouldn't be possible

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the fourth is low observability or

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cloaking

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even when these objects are observed

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getting a clear and detailed view of

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them either through pilot sightings

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radar or other means remains difficult

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and lou really saved the best for last

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on this one because the fifth observable

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is trans medium travel

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because these craft are able to

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transition seamlessly between flying in

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completely different environments

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they don't just fly through the air but

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through the waters of our oceans and

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through the vacuum of space

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i mean

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what

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this is the guy who used to run the

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government program that studied this

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stuff and this is what he is saying

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what has he seen that makes him say this

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what else don't we know

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are these videos one-off anomalies or

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just the tip of an unfathomable iceberg

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i don't know

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i seriously have no idea i've spent a

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weird amount of time on this subject

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over the last several months and the

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deeper i dig the more questions i have

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i've always considered myself to be an

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extremely logical person

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i grew up in a family of doctors nurses

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and educators where science and critical

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thinking weren't just valued in an

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abstract way but were an active and

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integral part of my upbringing

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while most kids were watching barney and

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friends my dad would teach my brother

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and i everything from what he was

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learning in medical school to the

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physics of falling objects

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and my mom would regularly bribe us with

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treats and shower us with praise when we

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could solve the critical thinking

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exercises that she prepared for her

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college age students

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having a lifelong love of both treats

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and praise i got pretty good at it

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while our upbringing ensured that we

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were always the weirdest kids at any of

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the many private schools we cycled

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through as my parents moved us around to

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pursue their degrees

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it also taught me how to think

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and i've always been really grateful for

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that and if i'm being honest it's

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something that i've taken a lot of pride

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in

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so when the government came out and

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confirmed that these videos that have

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been floating around since 2017

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weren't just authentic but that they had

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no idea what the craft captured in them

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actually were

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it shook me to my core

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because within that announcement was the

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realization that i couldn't trust myself

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i couldn't trust my mind to sort out

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fantasy from reality

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the realization didn't hit me like a

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thunderbolt it was more like an itchy

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tag and a new sweater or a hangnail or

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an inflamed taste bud just this low

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level agitation that slowly grew in the

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background until suddenly it was all i

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could focus on

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for the first time in my life i started

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to truly question

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not just my own perception but the very

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nature of my reality

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because if those videos are real

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it stands to reason that at least some

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of the other videos out there are real

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even if that number is super low

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let's say five percent let's say one

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percent

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it's hard to deny that the evidence for

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the reality of uaps is anything but

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overwhelming

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and even though i had been a witness

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myself

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i'd dismissed it as tin tinfoil hat

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foolishness without ever even giving it

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a second look

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so that's where it started for me

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with the realization that i'd gotten

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this one dead wrong

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and a desire fueled as much by ego as my

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curiosity if i'm being honest

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to figure out what i'd missed and in

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doing so reorder my universe back into

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something orderly and recognizable

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i decided that the best way to do this

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was to just start over

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i did my best to wipe any preconceived

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notions from my head and just look at

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the body of evidence

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as it was suddenly very clear to me that

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the stigma around the topic of ufos was

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a major reason that i dismissed key

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evidence in the past

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i decided to take in information from as

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many different sources as possible i

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would just let that information wash

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over me i take on all the different

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ideas and theories without prejudice

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weighing them and trying them on for

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size to see if they fit and in time i

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was certain that patterns and eventually

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a coherent narrative would arise

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and i gotta tell you

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i was wrong again

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because the further i go down this

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rabbit hole the more i realize that i

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don't know

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not just about ufos but about everything

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as soon as i began to pull on this one

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thread

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everything i thought i knew began to

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unravel

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the real story of the human race and

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this phenomena whatever it is

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touches everything from ancient

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civilizations to consciousness to the

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very existence and nature of god

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it's called literally every single

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belief i've ever had into question and

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i've got to be honest with you

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although i have a dazzling number an

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array of data points

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i have no idea what the any of this

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actually means

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so that's why i'm doing this

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that's why i'm talking to you right now

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because i want to take you on this

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journey down the ufo rabbit hole with me

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partly as a selfless endeavor because

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although these questions i've been

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asking have yet to find any kind of real

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answers

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the process of asking has made me a

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better person

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a more open person a more humble person

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a more spiritual person

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and a more hopeful person

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and i'd really like to share that

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but also my motivations are mostly

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selfish because i need more people to

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talk to about this

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because the thing you'll find very

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quickly is that this path is lonely

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we've been trained and conditioned our

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whole lives to dismiss ridicule and mock

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anyone who does so much as dare to

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approach this topic with any degree of

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seriousness

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they're immediately labeled as crazy

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they're kooks and when you start

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bringing this topic up in polite society

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you see how immediate and reflexive this

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response is in people and how hard that

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mindset is to overcome even when armed

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with declassified videos a congressional

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task force and an unequivocal admission

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from the u.s government this phenomenon

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is in fact real

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so i want to talk about all of it all of

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the weird twists and turns all of the

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wild theories the colorful and unlikely

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cast of characters currently at the

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center of this mystery and the massive

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body of evidence that's been hiding in

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plain sight

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maybe since the dawn of time

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but first i think it's important for us

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to establish some

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if there's any lesson to be learned from

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these last few chaotic and unprecedented

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years it's the very real dangers of

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misinformation

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when you let go of the rope of the

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established narrative and find that

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there is nothing immediately solid to

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hold on to it's easy to spin off into

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space and before you know it you're

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holding up a pizza joint because you're

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convinced that it's a front for hillary

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clinton's child trafficking ring

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or you're up all night on q and on

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message boards waiting for messages

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about donald trump's secret war against

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an elite cabal of satan worshippers

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or you're storming the us capital

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screaming for the heads of mike pence

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and nancy pelosi and trying to violently

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overturn a free and fair election

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yikes yikes on bikes that will not be us

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okay not on my watch

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and to make sure that we don't lose

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anyone to the dark side on this journey

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we need to first equip ourselves with

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the tools to make sure that we don't

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lose ourselves out there

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so tool number one

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is the recognition and belief that

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people are mostly good

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here's the thing

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a certain amount of conspiracy theories

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actually are true

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that's not an opinion that's a fact

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our own government and governments

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around the world regularly declassified

566
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:54,080
documents from decades past that prove

567
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,960
in no uncertain terms that false flags

568
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:59,039
misinformation campaigns secret black

569
00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:01,200
budget projects secret coups

570
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,880
these things are all real and are

571
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:04,880
carried out with relative frequency and

572
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,720
on a breathtaking scale

573
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:08,480
so although we've all been trained to

574
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,039
reject conspiracy theories outright the

575
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,280
reality is that the only idea more

576
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,280
ridiculous and fundamentally dangerous

577
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,000
than a conspiracy theory is the absurd

578
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,919
and nonsensical belief that there are no

579
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,600
conspiracies

580
00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,440
but that realization brings us to an

581
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,280
equally dangerous place

582
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,520
because if some conspiracy theories are

583
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,600
true if our government and the powers

584
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,760
that be are truly capable of pulling off

585
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:34,159
such elaborate secretive campaigns on a

586
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,000
global scale

587
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,000
then maybe they're all true maybe

588
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,840
everything is a lie

589
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,159
then suddenly every dubious shadowy

590
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,760
connection becomes evidence of an

591
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:45,280
elaborate plot

592
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:47,440
and in that place you no longer have

593
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,520
anything to anchor you there are no

594
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,520
cardinal directions there is no up or

595
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,600
down you have truly gone through the

596
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,919
looking glass and you're just

597
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:57,520
lost

598
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,960
many people who go to that place in

599
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:00,840
their minds never make it

600
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,919
back to me the only way out of that hole

601
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,000
is to hold tightly to the belief that

602
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,080
people are mostly good

603
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,400
you have to believe that most people

604
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,320
when presented with a moral or ethical

605
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,720
quandary particularly one with high

606
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:17,120
stakes for the whole of humanity

607
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:20,080
will strive to do the right thing

608
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,000
and you have to believe that

609
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:23,679
although they have the same personal

610
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,159
flaws and foibles as the rest of us

611
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:27,760
that most of the people who work in our

612
00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:30,159
government and in our armed services are

613
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,480
truly there with the intention to serve

614
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:34,159
and work towards the best interests of

615
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,320
their fellow citizens

616
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,760
now i know that for many of you

617
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:40,080
listening right now that idea is more

618
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:41,840
ludicrous and hard to swallow than

619
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,400
anything that i've said about ufos

620
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,720
and unfortunately if you don't believe

621
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,640
that people are mostly good i don't

622
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:50,000
really think that there's any amount of

623
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,600
evidence that i could present to you to

624
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,520
make you believe otherwise

625
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,440
but if you do feel yourself bristling at

626
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,840
this idea i hope you'll just let this

627
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,000
one marinate for a little bit

628
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,320
and if you're feeling brave maybe start

629
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,240
to challenge your assumptions in the lab

630
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,000
of your own life

631
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:07,679
and it's that last part that's the most

632
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:10,159
important part you have to examine this

633
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:12,080
idea within the confines of your own

634
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,520
lived experience

635
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:15,200
not what you see on the internet or on

636
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,240
tv

637
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:18,320
the unfortunate reality of our current

638
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:20,720
stage of technological evolution is that

639
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,360
all day long you're being bombarded with

640
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:24,960
images and messages that are meant to

641
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:27,440
manipulate you to take action

642
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,880
to click to buy to read more to follow

643
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,120
and subscribe to vote

644
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,640
to believe

645
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,640
and you don't get that kind of action

646
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,960
out of people with subtlety and nuance

647
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:40,720
you don't get it with reassurance in a

648
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,080
measured approach

649
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:44,159
you get it by speaking to people's most

650
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,240
basic primal instincts

651
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,919
you get it by creating fear and

652
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,400
uncertainty you get it by breeding

653
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,400
suspicion and hate

654
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,559
everything is a problem to be solved

655
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,400
everything is a crisis

656
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,240
and with each new nightmare that unfolds

657
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:00,480
there are a million different solutions

658
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,360
that you can have for a price

659
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,360
so if you're really going to examine the

660
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:07,440
idea that people are mostly good you

661
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,000
have to look at your actual life

662
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,000
my guess is that if you know any

663
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,240
mustache twisting villains that they are

664
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:16,000
few and far between

665
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,600
what you probably have instead is a

666
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,520
bunch of flawed but essentially decent

667
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,320
people who are all just doing their best

668
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,720
and who sometimes can really surprise

669
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,480
you by doing something completely

670
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,679
selfless

671
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,840
they may not be perfect but they are

672
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,919
mostly good

673
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,320
tool number two is equally important in

674
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,159
keeping us from spiraling out into the

675
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:38,960
oblivion of conspiracy thinking which is

676
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,600
the recognition that correlation doesn't

677
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,679
imply causation

678
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,440
correlation refers to a mutual

679
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,440
relationship or connection between two

680
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,000
or more things and causation means

681
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,159
obviously to cause something

682
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:54,960
so basically just because two or more

683
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,039
things happen at the same time or in the

684
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,960
same place or seem in some other way to

685
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,720
be connected to each other

686
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:02,480
that isn't enough to prove that one

687
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,279
thing caused the other in fact they may

688
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,080
not be related in any real way at all

689
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:10,240
a perfect recent example of this is the

690
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,520
belief that 5g causes covet 19.

691
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,279
this was a conspiracy theory that caught

692
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,279
fire pretty early on during the pandemic

693
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,039
when people started to point out that if

694
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,640
you looked at a heat map of the places

695
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,960
where 5g had been rolled out in a heat

696
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,480
map of where the biggest outbreaks of

697
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,320
the virus were occurring you were

698
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,240
essentially looking at the same map

699
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:29,760
causing many people to jump to the

700
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:32,000
conclusion that one was causing the

701
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,039
other

702
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,120
however knowing what we do about how

703
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,600
covet spreads it makes perfect sense

704
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,200
that big cities and more densely

705
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,440
populated areas bore the brunt of the

706
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:43,200
initial outbreaks

707
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,760
and where did 5g roll out first

708
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,760
in big cities and densely populated

709
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,720
areas

710
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,799
so while those heat maps could give us

711
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,400
the impression that these two things

712
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:54,320
were related in some way

713
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,760
they actually had nothing to do with

714
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,520
each other at all

715
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,039
when you let go of the rope of the

716
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,960
established narrative and start seeing

717
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,320
connections between things that you

718
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,840
never saw before

719
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,120
it's a rush

720
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:07,760
it's honestly exhilarating

721
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:09,679
although i'm being entirely sincere when

722
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:11,039
i say that i have no idea what's

723
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,400
actually going on

724
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:13,760
the things that i've discovered while

725
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,760
going down this rabbit hole have in some

726
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,760
ways made the world make sense to me in

727
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,919
a way that it never has before

728
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,600
things that once seemed random or

729
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,679
meaningless or suddenly imbued with a

730
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,840
deep sense of meaning and seem to make

731
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:27,760
perfect sense inside the great order of

732
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:28,960
things

733
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:31,679
and it can be very very tempting to

734
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,480
chase that feeling to misidentify it as

735
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,640
proof that you're right and in doing so

736
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:38,799
to begin to see all kinds of connections

737
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:42,159
between things that aren't really there

738
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,000
so on this journey it's important that

739
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,559
we continue to notice correlations

740
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,559
because they can sometimes be a road map

741
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:50,640
that points us to our next clue

742
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:52,720
but they can also be nothing at all

743
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,039
so we need to reserve judgment on

744
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:57,520
assuming real connection or causation

745
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,320
until we can prove categorically that

746
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,039
those connections really exist

747
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,880
which brings us to our third and final

748
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,200
tool which is the recognition that the

749
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:08,960
truth is a destination that you can

750
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,159
approach forever and never arrive

751
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:14,799
renowned physicists leopold infeld and

752
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,400
albert einstein

753
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,000
wrote the following in their seminal

754
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,279
1938 work the evolution of physics

755
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,440
quote in our endeavor to understand

756
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,440
reality we are somewhat like a man

757
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,200
trying to understand the mechanism of a

758
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,720
closed watch

759
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,960
he sees the face and the moving hands

760
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,360
even hears its ticking but he has no way

761
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,039
of opening the case

762
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:37,279
if he is ingenious he may form some

763
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,880
picture of a mechanism that could be

764
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,480
responsible for all the things he

765
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,679
observes

766
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,520
but he may never be quite sure that his

767
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,120
picture is the only one which could

768
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:47,039
explain his observations

769
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,799
he will never be able to compare his

770
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,039
picture with the real mechanism and he

771
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,200
cannot even imagine the possibility of

772
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:55,919
the meaning of such a comparison

773
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,960
i love this passage so much because it

774
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:00,799
takes the pressure off trying to find

775
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,279
out the truth with a capital t

776
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:05,200
even einstein one of the most brilliant

777
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,360
minds of his or any time

778
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,360
recognized that his attempts to describe

779
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:10,960
the true nature of reality were

780
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,919
ultimately entirely futile so what hope

781
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,679
do any of us have

782
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,440
the best we could ever hope to achieve

783
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,440
is to create theoretical models that

784
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,200
more or less explain the world as we

785
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,279
experience and observe it and those

786
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,039
theories that most closely describe and

787
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,880
predict what we experience and observe

788
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,440
are what we call the laws of science

789
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:31,840
however we have no way of knowing in our

790
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,559
earthly forms or perhaps ever what the

791
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,200
truth behind our reality really is

792
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,960
to know that would be to know the mind

793
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,480
of god

794
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,159
so it's important that we maintain our

795
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,480
humility as we go on this journey

796
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,320
the truth is something we can pursue

797
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,720
together but no matter how far we go

798
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,799
we'll never get there entirely and

799
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,320
that's okay

800
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,000
it can even be beautiful if you look at

801
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,600
it in a certain light

802
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,080
and more importantly that humility is a

803
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,159
reminder that none of this is worth

804
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,399
fighting over and we're all on the same

805
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,679
side

806
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,679
as you'll see as we move forward there

807
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,120
are countless different theories in the

808
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,120
ufo community about what these things

809
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,440
really are about who or what is behind

810
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,279
it all and about who the good guys and

811
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,440
the bad guys are and the warring and

812
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,279
infighting among different factions can

813
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,960
get pretty intense

814
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,039
accusations are constantly being thrown

815
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,039
people can be heroes one moment and be

816
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,679
called con men and shills the next it's

817
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:26,640
a mess

818
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,039
but as long as we follow this third rule

819
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,120
we can fly above all that

820
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:33,039
we don't know the truth it's likely that

821
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,399
no one does

822
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,320
any consistent and coherent line of

823
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,720
questioning about ufos will inevitably

824
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,399
lead you to deeper questions about the

825
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,559
very nature of reality and the meaning

826
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,279
of our existence and on those topics

827
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,600
none of us are any better than einstein

828
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,440
even people with deeply held beliefs

829
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,520
about god and religion have to admit

830
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:53,360
that at a certain point it's a matter of

831
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,320
faith

832
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,799
because we simply don't know and when

833
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:58,880
you look at it that way what possible

834
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,520
reason could there be a fight about it

835
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,360
so now that we've gotten our tools

836
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,960
together to hold ourselves accountable

837
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,039
on this journey i feel it's also

838
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,200
important that as your guide i be

839
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,279
accountable to all of you

840
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,679
listen above all else i want this

841
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,200
journey to be fun

842
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,200
i'm doing this because exploring all of

843
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,440
this is very genuinely fun for me and i

844
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,279
want to share it with you

845
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,120
but i also think it's important to tell

846
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,200
you that i approach this topic with a

847
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,640
lot of respect

848
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,720
reverence and i'm not gonna lie a

849
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,399
healthy amount of fear

850
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,320
and that fear isn't even necessarily

851
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,240
about the phenomena itself although

852
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:36,080
there are aspects of it that honestly do

853
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,360
terrify me

854
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,679
but rather just an awareness that

855
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,440
dealing with this kind of information

856
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,679
can be dangerous in very real and

857
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:45,600
insidious ways

858
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,240
in a post-q anon world i can't deny the

859
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,480
risks i don't want to be responsible for

860
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,399
leading anyone astray or down a rabbit

861
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,640
hole that they can't climb out of

862
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,240
so what i ask of you through this

863
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,320
process is that as i start to tell you

864
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:01,120
about fantastical things that you remain

865
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,399
skeptical

866
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,880
check my work dig deeper

867
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:07,360
make up your own mind and my commitment

868
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,520
to you is that i will make it as easy as

869
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,840
possible for you to do so

870
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,000
so my first promise to you is that i

871
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,679
will show my work

872
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,600
i don't expect you to take my word on

873
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,320
any of this if i make a claim to you i

874
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,399
should be able to back it up as i

875
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:23,600
mentioned at the very top of this

876
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,320
episode all members of my patreon will

877
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,320
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878
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879
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before they drop free merch the ability

881
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,720
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882
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883
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start at five dollars a month however

884
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885
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,760
available to everyone so if you go to

886
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,799
uforabbithole.com and sign up for the

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888
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,039
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889
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890
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,399
delivered to your email when each

891
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892
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,760
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893
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,440
anyone and all you need to sign up is a

894
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:03,279
valid email address

895
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,720
all of the information for both the

896
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,640
patreon and the regular email list are

897
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,720
posted in the episode notes so pause

898
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,559
this real quick and go sign up for one

899
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:12,080
or the other and i'll send you

900
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,519
everything including the links to the

901
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,360
videos we were talking about which you

902
00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:17,679
are definitely going to want to see go

903
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[Music]

904
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:36,389
great you're back anyway

905
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,919
showing my work in this way is very

906
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,919
important because when it comes to this

907
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,000
particular area of research

908
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,000
vetting the credibility of sources is

909
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,320
complicated to say the least and there

910
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,480
are a few reasons for that

911
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,480
the first is that as we'll discuss in an

912
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,960
upcoming episode the mechanisms of our

913
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,440
press and academic institutions have not

914
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:57,279
historically been friendly or open to

915
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,799
ideas that fall outside of their

916
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,480
established narrative

917
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:03,120
the 2017 new york times article was so

918
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,080
shocking

919
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,159
not just because of its contents but

920
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:08,080
because the mainstream media has so

921
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,600
rarely been willing to approach this

922
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,519
topic with anything other than a sort of

923
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,440
snickering voyeurism

924
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,360
a lighthearted moment when anchors can

925
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,960
chuckle and exchange knowing looks

926
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,640
before sending you over to bob with the

927
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:19,919
weather

928
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:22,720
academia has been similarly avoidant and

929
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,799
despite what the indiana jones franchise

930
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,799
would have us believe research dollars

931
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,159
for anything that could potentially be

932
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,320
classified as paranormal are almost

933
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,840
non-existent

934
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,080
because of this even the sources that we

935
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,320
assume to be the most credible in normal

936
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,799
circumstances can fall into question

937
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,039
we can't just take them at face value

938
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,440
but rather we have to put those sources

939
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:45,840
in the context of the time the identity

940
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:47,679
and motivations of the author and other

941
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:48,640
clues

942
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,159
things like heavily redacted government

943
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,640
documents blurry or potentially altered

944
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,279
photos and videos eyewitness testimony

945
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,279
and even ancient texts

946
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:01,760
it can be nearly impossible to determine

947
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,240
which pieces of evidence we can trust

948
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,320
and frankly i don't think that you

949
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:08,640
should let me or anyone else determine

950
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,120
that for you when there is this level of

951
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:13,279
ambiguity you have to make up your own

952
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:14,159
mind

953
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,760
by providing you with all my source

954
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:18,000
materials you'll have the opportunity to

955
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,600
do just that

956
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:21,440
my next promise is that i will be

957
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,799
accountable

958
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,720
i won't just show my work but i promise

959
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,640
to remain open-minded to criticism and

960
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,600
feedback

961
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:29,360
if i make a mistake or i'm presented

962
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,039
with new evidence that substantially

963
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:32,799
changes the facts as i've presented them

964
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,120
to you i will tell you guys

965
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,200
and for the record i fully expect this

966
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,080
to happen this is an enormously complex

967
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:41,919
field of study with new developments and

968
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,080
revelations coming out almost daily at

969
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,480
this point i'm only one person and

970
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,480
despite my best efforts i'm bound to get

971
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,960
it wrong at some point and when i do i

972
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,799
will correct myself

973
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,120
my next promise is that i will do my

974
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:57,679
best to present a balanced narrative and

975
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,159
to be honest about my biases

976
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:01,919
my goal here isn't to spin any

977
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,399
particular narrative but rather to lay

978
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:06,080
out as many of the varied theories and

979
00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:08,240
perspectives as i can so you can connect

980
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,679
the dots yourself

981
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:11,599
and in doing so it will always be my

982
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:14,879
intention to be balanced fair and honest

983
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,359
however the reason i'm doing all of this

984
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,679
is that i am a giant nerd who is

985
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:21,919
absolutely obsessed with this topic

986
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:24,879
my own biases are sure to come through

987
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,200
and i think that's okay as long as i'm

988
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:29,359
honest with you about what they are

989
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,520
i have favorite theories and favorite

990
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:33,599
characters in all of this i have

991
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,560
opinions and i am highly excitable i

992
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:38,960
can't do any of this in an authentic way

993
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,200
without all of that coming through

994
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,520
however i'll be transparent with you and

995
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,720
i'll always present you with the

996
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,399
alternative view

997
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:48,000
it's also important to mention that

998
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,440
there's one theory that i'm going to

999
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:51,440
touch on but that i probably won't give

1000
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:54,000
nearly as much time as its alternatives

1001
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,520
that theory is the idea that the

1002
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:57,920
government is lying about uaps and that

1003
00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:00,000
the recent move toward disclosure is a

1004
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,920
calculated misinformation campaign

1005
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,680
designed to cover up the fact that these

1006
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,760
craft are actually ours

1007
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,240
or perhaps it's the prelude to a pretend

1008
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,160
alien invasion intended to engender

1009
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,079
support for unprecedented levels of

1010
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:14,320
black budget defense funding

1011
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,680
for reasons that we'll get into in

1012
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,839
future episodes i currently don't

1013
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,839
personally think that's the case

1014
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,599
however that's not why i won't be

1015
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:23,599
spending as much time on that theory the

1016
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:26,160
main reason is that it's just

1017
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,440
depressing

1018
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,440
and while each one of the other theories

1019
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:31,520
are sobering and terrifying in their own

1020
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,480
way

1021
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:35,040
none of them are as blackly cynical as

1022
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,480
that

1023
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,560
there are two doors before us behind

1024
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,480
door number one is all the mystery and

1025
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,560
potential of the universe and behind

1026
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,359
door number two is only oblivion

1027
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,599
i strongly believe that what we think

1028
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:49,440
and where we choose to put our attention

1029
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,720
matters in very real and tangible ways

1030
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,880
so i choose to spend as little time as

1031
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,200
possible behind door number two

1032
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,200
although i grudgingly admit that even

1033
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,960
though i hate that theory and i find it

1034
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:02,640
to be grotesque

1035
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,920
it's still a legitimate possibility

1036
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,040
moving on

1037
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,440
my final promise to you is that i won't

1038
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,280
try to convince you of anything with

1039
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,599
regards to this phenomenon

1040
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,359
i think it's important for all of us to

1041
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,280
go into this with our eyes wide open

1042
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,599
about the fact that toxic conspiracy

1043
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,079
thinking and occult mentality are very

1044
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:24,320
near neighbors and in flirting with one

1045
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,760
we are inevitably going to be

1046
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:27,920
dangerously close to the other

1047
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,920
that's why i not only strongly believe

1048
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,839
that it's not my place to tell you what

1049
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,320
to believe about any of this but i'd

1050
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,160
caution you strongly against putting too

1051
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,720
much stock in anyone who tries to

1052
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,720
the only thing that i'm interested in

1053
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,720
convincing you of through this journey

1054
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,880
and i sincerely hope that i'm successful

1055
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,079
in doing so

1056
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,040
is that the universe is infinitely more

1057
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,680
fast complex and full of beauty than we

1058
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:53,119
ever imagined

1059
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:55,520
and that the potential of humanity both

1060
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:58,240
as a species and as individuals

1061
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,079
is as profound as it is limitless

1062
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,079
my name is kelly chase by the way it's a

1063
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:05,760
pleasure to meet you friend